Here’s an out-take with Heli Helskyaho at Jfokus in 2020. Years ago when I went to events and did video interviews, I used a wide 24 mm lens so the camera was just a few feet away — but people STILL crossed through and ruined the shot! Notice the room behind us? It’s empty. It’s at the end of the event and still people find my camera. Why? I miss doing this work, though. I loved it. Oh, well.